{"id":754,"date":"2004-12-23T09:03:37","date_gmt":"2004-12-22T21:03:37","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=754"},"modified":"2004-12-23T09:08:25","modified_gmt":"2004-12-22T21:08:25","slug":"","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/archives\/754","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Said Tom Wright in <a title=\"MP3s aplenty\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dur.ac.uk\/kevin.bywater\/\">a recent seminar<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n[I have been saying that] the Covenant preceeds the obedience within the Covenant. I find this very ironic for this reason: if you were to go onto Google and were to type in &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.co.nz\/search?q=tom+wright+justification+by+faith\">tom wright justification by faith<\/a>&#8221; you would turn up a lot of American websites from the Presbyterian Church of America and various other strongly Reformed centres like Westminster Seminary which would be extremely rude about the two people [Tom Wright and James Dunn] sitting on this platform for having sold Paul down the river and given up the genuine Reformed doctrine of justification by faith. And this is really quite bizzare because I think that actually what we have both done in taking Sanders proposal theologically, and Sanders really is not a theologian &mdash; I mean his putting Paul together theologically is not very convincing &mdash; he&#8217;s more of a historian pointing out the historical context etcetera. But Jimmy and I and others have tried to take this forward theologically. And I see what we&#8217;re doing is actually much more on a Reformed map than a Lutheran map, precisely because of the emphasis on the Covenant and Grace as basic, and on the Law &mdash; from the start &mdash; as being the way of life for the redeemed people. Which corresponds to Luther&#8217;s ?tertsius hertius? legacy if you like but it&#8217;s much easier to do it in a Reformed or Calvinist framework.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Said Tom Wright in a recent seminar: [I have been saying that] the Covenant preceeds the obedience within the Covenant. I find this very ironic for this reason: if you were to go onto Google and were to type in &#8220;tom wright justification by faith&#8221; you would turn up a lot of American websites from [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,3,2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-754","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-audiovideo","category-link","category-quote"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/754","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=754"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/754\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=754"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=754"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/mhjb.co.nz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=754"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}