the writer spent most of his time trying to discredit the Ref-church and yet does not once mention the content of the flyer that was sent out by the campaign. Some of his info is not completly accurate either. Bit of a shame. You could say Daniel that he has taken a paint brush already tainted with his old paint, sat in front of a whole lot of paint tins with Ref-church printed on them and then dipped his brush into the pots that had the yukkiest paint he could find, only to create a non-pretty picture. It was always going to happen.
I didn’t say unfair. I said Craig tried to discredit the ref-church. He does that with his use of language. he uses words like ‘ringleader’ and ‘infestation’ to paint a hue on his facts that he mentions. What was the purpose of the article? From what I can tell, it says that there is a Campaign against civil unions led by Rev Milne; he’s from the Reformed Church of NZ; this is some of the bad fundamentalist stuff that they have done in the past; flash in the pan, they are a waste of time. Anyone is able to write that way on any issue. Not once does he try and refute the facts that the campaign states. It’s a classic case of shoot the messenger, forget the message.
I have emailed the gaynz.com website asking that maybe Craig will reply to the facts listed on the flyer. It would be interesting to hear a gaynz.com review of those. I also mentioned that I thought Craig had shot the messanger, and not the message.
He did, but unfortunately, editorial constraints and story event pace meant that it was unable to be mailed in time.
I consider it quite legit to raise the issue of whether or not the Reformed Church still contains theonomists, given that the source that I cited (Haverland’s paper, “Theonomy:
What Have We Learnt?”) leaves the question of such adherents within the sect wide open.
ummm…is this where we say, “any publicity is good publicity”??
Dunno Aaron. He doesn’t paint a pretty picture.
the writer spent most of his time trying to discredit the Ref-church and yet does not once mention the content of the flyer that was sent out by the campaign. Some of his info is not completly accurate either. Bit of a shame. You could say Daniel that he has taken a paint brush already tainted with his old paint, sat in front of a whole lot of paint tins with Ref-church printed on them and then dipped his brush into the pots that had the yukkiest paint he could find, only to create a non-pretty picture. It was always going to happen.
I looked at the flyer just quickly. It didn’t seem that cool. Not a lot in the way of hope, grace or a positive way forward.
David, what specifically did you find unfair about GayNZ’s article?
I didn’t say unfair. I said Craig tried to discredit the ref-church. He does that with his use of language. he uses words like ‘ringleader’ and ‘infestation’ to paint a hue on his facts that he mentions. What was the purpose of the article? From what I can tell, it says that there is a Campaign against civil unions led by Rev Milne; he’s from the Reformed Church of NZ; this is some of the bad fundamentalist stuff that they have done in the past; flash in the pan, they are a waste of time. Anyone is able to write that way on any issue. Not once does he try and refute the facts that the campaign states. It’s a classic case of shoot the messenger, forget the message.
I have emailed the gaynz.com website asking that maybe Craig will reply to the facts listed on the flyer. It would be interesting to hear a gaynz.com review of those. I also mentioned that I thought Craig had shot the messanger, and not the message.
Those are fair points David, and Good On You (GOY) for writing to them.
They probably haven’t even seen the Flyer (YET).
Link no worky
it’s moved.
http://www.gaynz.com/aarticles/templates/CivilUnions.asp?articleid=507&zoneid=20
and here is another:
http://www.gaynz.com/aarticles/templates/CivilUnions.asp?articleid=515&zoneid=20
He did, but unfortunately, editorial constraints and story event pace meant that it was unable to be mailed in time.
I consider it quite legit to raise the issue of whether or not the Reformed Church still contains theonomists, given that the source that I cited (Haverland’s paper, “Theonomy:
What Have We Learnt?”) leaves the question of such adherents within the sect wide open.